10 Things to Know When Tax-Loss Harvesting a Large Taxable Account | White Coat Investor (2024)

By Dr. James M. Dahle, WCI Founder

I have written before about how to tax-loss harvest. I've shown you screenshots for tax-loss harvesting at Vanguard and at Fidelity.I've explained why you might not want to tax-loss harvest. I've been tax-loss harvesting for a long time, and I've learned a lot of practical tips beyond the basics over the years. Today, I'm going to give you some guidance for those with substantial taxable accounts that will make things much more hassle-free.

#1 Have a Purpose for the Losses

When you first start a taxable account and then hit your first bear market, you get all excited about tax-loss harvesting. The primary goal there is to get up to that $3,000 amount of losses that you can use as a deduction against your ordinary income. However, once you've been tax-loss harvesting for a while and have a six- or seven-figure taxable account, getting $3,000 in losses is no longer really the goal. By this point, you already have tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses you've been collecting over the years.

Imagine you have a $2 million taxable account, and the market drops 20%. You tax-loss harvest as much as you can. You might now have $100,000, $200,000, or perhaps even $300,000 in losses. That's 33-100 years' worth of $3,000 losses—more than you'll probably ever use up just taking that $3,000 per year deduction. If you're going to bother continuing to tax-loss harvest, there had better be a good reason to do so. Here are some potential reasons:

  1. You have a small business, practice, or center (surgical, radiological, dialysis, etc.) that you will sell at some point for a big gain
  2. You have a house you may sell during your lifetime that has a gain that will be much higher than the $250,000-$500,000 capital gains exclusion
  3. You have real estate investments that will be sold prior to death
  4. You are likely to sell a fair amount of your taxable account to pay for retirement spending (if you sell only high basis shares with a little bit in losses, that provides A LOT of tax-free retirement spending since most of what is sold will be basis)

Most people with large taxable accounts will have one or more of these situations apply to them. At least two of them and possibly all four of them apply to us. So, we continue to tax-loss harvest.

#2 Have a Simple Portfolio in the First Place

I sometimes have people write in and ask me how to tax-loss harvest their Amazon shares or something similar. The problem is that there is no other investment out there with a 0.99+ correlation with Amazon shares. So, you're stuck picking something else (QQQ? S&P 500? Another retailer stock? A tech stock?) or waiting 30 days to buy it back to prevent a wash sale—and running the risk that you're selling low and then buying high. If you just stick to a handful of boring index funds, this works much better.

There are a dozen or more awesome tax-loss harvesting partners for a total stock market index fund. Simplicity has lots of benefits. It is also much simpler to manage a taxable account if there are just a few investments in it. The majority of our portfolio is now in a taxable account, so most of our asset classes are now in taxable. But what's in there? Just this:

  • US Stocks via a Total Stock Market Fund
  • International Stocks via a Total International Stock Market Fund
  • Small Value Stocks via a Small Value Stock Index Fund
  • Small International Stocks via a Small International Stock Index Fund
  • Municipal Bonds via an Intermediate-Term Municipal Bond Fund

That's it. Super simple. Yes, we have some real estate investments and some I Bonds and individual TIPS at Treasury Direct, but tax-loss harvesting those doesn't really work due to transaction costs and hassle.

#3 Use Specific Share ID

Whenever you buy a new investment in the taxable account, be sure to set it to use “specific identification” as your cost basis tracking method. This is done at Vanguard by going to the “My Accounts” tab and then the “Cost Basis” page, which is labeled “Cost Basis Summary” at the top. Select your taxable account from the drop-down menu. Near the upper right is a link called “View/Change Cost Basis Method.” Click that.

Once you click that link, you'll see a page like this that shows all of your holdings and the method each is using for keeping track of your cost basis.

There are four choices in the drop-down menu:

  • Average Cost (AvgCost)
  • First In, First Out (FIFO)
  • Highest In, First Out (HIFO)
  • Specific Identification (SpecID)

I have no idea why anyone would ever want to use anything other than SpecID, and I don't understand why that is not just set as a default option. As you can see, when I went in to take this screenshot, there was one holding that had not yet been set to SpecID, so I fixed that while I was in there. I checked all of the accounts and found some holdings in my kids' UTMA accounts where a method had not been chosen yet and fixed those too. If you haven't looked at this in a while, you probably should.

By using Specific Identification, you can sell only the tax lots with losses, which is precisely what you want to do. Maximize your control over your tax situation by always doing this.

#4 Don't Bother for Small Amounts

When you're just trying to get your $3,000 in losses, you may be willing to tax-loss harvest for a loss of just a few hundred dollars. When you already have six figures in tax losses, you don't need to do that anymore. Don't worry, there will probably be a market correction or bear market along soon, and you can get just as much in losses all at once as you could have by doing small amounts all along the way. At this point, I NEVER tax-loss harvest for less than a high five- or six-figure loss. Maybe I miss out on a few losses here and there that I could have gotten if I had checked my account every single day, but at a certain point, I have more important stuff to do in my life. The amount of a loss worth going after for you might be larger or smaller than mine, but over time, that amount is likely to increase.

#5 Tax-Loss Harvest No More Frequently Than Once Every 2-3 Months

Despite robo-advisors out there trying to convince you of the value of daily tax-loss harvesting (so you will pay them advisory fees to do it for you), I think there are four very good reasons to only do it once a quarter or so.

The first is the simple hassle factor. You have better things to do.

The second is to ensure your qualified dividends stay qualified. If you don't own shares for at least 60 days in the period around (counting both before and after) the ex-dividend date, dividends that would have otherwise been eligible for the lower qualified dividend tax rate become ordinary dividends—and they are subject to your ordinary income tax rates. In my case, that means going from a 20% to a 37% federal tax rate. Doing that completely eliminates the benefit of tax-loss harvesting. If you never tax-loss harvest more frequently than every 60 days, that will never happen to you.

The third is to avoid the 30-day wash sale rule. Again, if you do not buy or sell more frequently than every 60 days, you'll never have a wash sale. Avoid reinvesting dividends automatically in your taxable account and watch that IRA/Roth IRA to make sure you don't have the same holding there as your taxable account. I know putting everything on auto-pilot sure is convenient, but tax-loss harvesting and automatic investing don't play together well. If you're buying all of your funds every two weeks when you get paid, you're going to have some wash sales. It's not the end of the world, but I think you're better off just pooling all of your money from all of your sources of income and investing it all together manually once a month or once a quarter. That also allows you to rebalance as you go along with new money just by directing investments at lagging asset classes.

The fourth is so you don't ever have more than two investment holdings per asset class. If you're trying to tax-loss harvest every week, you might need three or four partners for each asset class. That introduces a lot of complexity to the portfolio.

#6 Have Only 2 Options

As mentioned above, just have two good options for each asset class you own. Make sure they are investments you are willing to hold for the rest of your life, because you might just have to do so (unless you're willing to pay capital gains taxes to change or you donate a lot to charity.) Here are some of the specific investments I use, along with tax-loss harvesting partners that I would be willing to hold long-term and that are available to purchase at Vanguard. The ones marked in red are the ones I have actually owned recently.

As you can see, finding ETF partners at Vanguard is easier than finding fund partners most, but not all, of the time. For small value and small international, I very much prefer the ETFs. For muni bonds, Vanguard only has one ETF so I very much prefer the fund. For my main taxable holdings, TSM and TISM, both ETFs and traditional mutual funds work just fine.

#7 Donate Appreciated Shares Held for at Least a Year

Do you have charitable inclinations? Then, I suggest donating appreciated shares from your taxable account via a Donor Advised Fund (DAF) instead of donating cash to your favorite charities. The DAF allows for convenience and anonymity, and you can keep the fees very low by not leaving money in there long-term. The overall effect is to flush capital gains out of your portfolio; continually raising the cost basis of the portfolio; and ensuring a larger percentage of it is likely to have a taxable loss, allowing for more tax-loss harvesting. This is a really great strategy to harvest the losers and donate the winners. I've never actually realized a gain in the index funds in my taxable account. Just losses. Yet the basis in that account is over 90% of its value. Why? Because I keep raising it by donating the most appreciated shares. Be sure to hold on to those appreciated shares for at least one year before donating them or you won't get the full charitable donation deduction. If you don't you'll only be able to deduct the cost basis, not the full value.

#8 Use 2-3 Tabs in Your Browser

It's important to keep everything straight as you go through this process, especially when using ETFs. I find it best to have three tabs open, all at Vanguard.com. The first one is the Cost Basis page. This allows me to see exactly which holdings and which shares I want to sell. The second one is the Order Status page. This tells me when the sell order goes through so I can then put in the corresponding buy order. The third one is where I actually put in the orders.

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#9 Move Quickly When Using ETFs

When tax-loss harvesting large amounts, you really don't want the market to move in between selling one security and buying the partner security. You want to move quickly. Yes, the price could drop in between the transactions and you could have a nice little bonus, but Murphy's Law being what it is, the market always seems to move against me while I am out of it for a minute or two putting in the buy order. Having multiple tabs open helps with this. Using market orders also helps with this.

I have found Vanguard ETF market order transactions to be essentially instantaneous, and I get fair pricing despite using a market order. With limit orders, I often found myself chasing my tail and putting in continually higher buy orders every couple of minutes as the market climbed away from me. It's much easier to avoid buying high and selling low by using market orders in this case. As soon as you see the sell order has gone through, put in a buy order.

If you are doing a very large transaction (six to seven figures), I find it helps if you do one (or perhaps both) of two things. The first is to keep a few thousand dollars of cash in your settlement fund. That way if the share price goes up a few cents right as you buy, you've still got the money to cover the transaction. The second is to actually put in two buy transactions. The first is a very large transaction for most but not all of the shares. That way if the price rises just as you put in the order, you still have the cash to cover it. Then, you do a “clean-up” buy for the remaining shares. Let me show you how this works.

Let's say you are selling VTI and buying ITOT. You sell $1.5 million of VTI. You see that ITOT is selling for $86.76 a share. And $1.5 million divided by $86.76 is 17,289 shares. So, maybe you put in a transaction for 17,200 shares and wait until that goes through. Let's say the market rose on you and you ended up paying $86.80 per share. Instead of buying 17,200 x $86.76 = $1,492,272 worth of ITOT, you actually bought 17,200 x 86.80 = $1,492,960 of ITOT, or $688 dollars more, with that first transaction. Now you only have $7,040 left to buy instead of $7,728. So, you put in an order to buy 81 shares instead of the 89 you would have bought. If you had instead bought all 17,289 shares at once, you would have bought an extra $685 that maybe you didn't have. You can solve this problem either by having some extra cash in the settlement fund or by doing two transactions, one large and one small.

#10 When Using Funds, Put Your Transaction in Near the End of the Day

Tax-loss harvesting traditional mutual funds is way simpler than tax-loss harvesting ETF shares. It all takes place at the Net Asset Value (NAV) at the end of the day. You simply put in an exchange order and voila! It just happens. Very convenient. However, sometimes markets really change during the day. You might have thought you were going to have a loss at 10 in the morning, but by 4pm, it was actually a gain! I recommend you don't put that order in until closer to 4pm ET to make sure you actually still have a loss. To check, just google the corresponding ETF share class ticker and see where it sits on the day. If you had a loss on the fund as of the prior day and the ETF share is down again (or not up much), then you are probably still going to have a significant loss at the end of the day.

You don't have to tax-loss harvest. But if you choose to do so, save yourself some trouble by following these rules, at least once you have a six- or seven-figure taxable portfolio.

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What do you think? Do you tax-loss harvest? Why or why not? How do you do it to keep it simple? Any other tips? Comment below!

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FAQs

What should be included in taxable account white coat investor? ›

It's not necessarily the right thing to do at very low interest rates, but even when you're wrong, it doesn't matter much. If you have to invest in a taxable account, the types of assets you want in there include equity real estate, municipal bonds, total stock market index funds.

What do I need to know about tax-loss harvesting? ›

Tax-loss harvesting involves using the losses from the sale of one investment to offset gains made from the sale of another investment, lowering the federal tax owed that year. Tax-loss harvesting only defers tax payments, it does not cancel them.

What is the downside of tax-loss harvesting? ›

Overlooking How Tax-Loss Harvesting Emphasizes Losses

Another downside to tax-loss harvesting is that it highlights the exact outcome clients are hoping to avoid – investment losses. In contrast, capital-gains harvesting, or strategically selling investments at a gain, emphasizes the wins in your clients' portfolios.

What is the wash sale rule for white coat investors? ›

The wash-sale rule prohibits selling an investment for a loss and replacing it with the same or a "substantially identical" investment 30 days before or after the sale. If you do have a wash sale, the IRS will not allow you to write off the investment loss which could make your taxes for the year higher than you hoped.

How much tax do you pay when stocks vest? ›

RSU income is taxed when your shares vest. Your employer will typically withhold taxes at the federal supplemental wages withholding rate, which is 22% up to $1 million of income and 37% for wages in excess of $1 million.

What should be included in a taxable brokerage account? ›

Here are some of the key asset classes that make sense for most investors' taxable accounts:
  1. Municipal Bonds, Municipal-Bond Funds, and Money Market Funds.
  2. I Bonds, Series EE Bonds.
  3. Individual Stocks.
  4. Equity Exchange-Traded Funds.
  5. Equity Index Funds.
  6. Tax-Managed Funds.
  7. Master Limited Partnerships.
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How much can you write off with tax-loss harvesting? ›

Tax-loss harvesting is the timely selling of securities at a loss to offset the amount of capital gains tax owed from selling profitable assets. An individual taxpayer can write off up to $3,000 in net losses annually. For more advice on how to maximize your tax breaks, consider consulting a professional tax advisor.

What is the 30 day rule for tax-loss harvesting? ›

If you sell a security at a loss and buy the same or a substantially identical security within 30 calendar days before or after the sale, you won't be able to take a loss for that security on your current-year tax return.

Can I use more than $3000 capital loss carryover? ›

Capital losses that exceed capital gains in a year may be used to offset capital gains or as a deduction against ordinary income up to $3,000 in any one tax year. Net capital losses in excess of $3,000 can be carried forward indefinitely until the amount is exhausted.

How much stock losses can you write off? ›

No capital gains? Your claimed capital losses will come off your taxable income, reducing your tax bill. Your maximum net capital loss in any tax year is $3,000. The IRS limits your net loss to $3,000 (for individuals and married filing jointly) or $1,500 (for married filing separately).

How to avoid a wash sale in stocks? ›

To avoid a wash sale, the investor can wait more than 30 days from the sale to purchase an identical or substantially identical investment or invest in exchange-traded or mutual funds with similar investments to the one sold.

What is the wash rule? ›

A wash sale occurs when an investor sells a security at a loss and then purchases the same or a substantially similar security within 30 days, before or after the transaction. This rule is designed to prevent investors from claiming capital losses as tax deductions if they re-enter a similar position too quickly.

What is the 30 day rule for capital gains? ›

1) Use or lose the annual CGT allowance

Just be careful if you intend to buy the same holding back outside of an ISA or SIPP. If you do this within 30 days, then you would be deemed to have bought it back at the original cost and not realised any gains.

What is the no wash sale rule? ›

The wash-sale rule applies to stocks, bonds, mutual funds, ETFs, options and futures but not yet to cryptocurrency. While it is not illegal to make a wash sale, it is illegal to claim a tax write-off for it, and the IRS may impose penalties for doing so.

Can you sell a stock for a gain and buy back immediately? ›

It is always possible to sell a stock for profit purposes, as the Income Tax Department has you paying taxes on the profit you make. This is, as mentioned earlier, a capital gains tax. You can buy the same stock back at any time, and this has no bearing on the sale you have made for profit.

What is included in an investor profile? ›

An Investor Profile is a summary of an investor's financial goals, financial situation, time horizon, and risk tolerance. It can help investors, like you, select appropriate investments. In general terms, your profile defines the level of risk you are willing to take.

How are taxable investment accounts taxed? ›

How Are Brokerage Accounts Taxed? When you earn money in a taxable brokerage account, you must pay taxes on that money in the year it's received, not when you withdraw it from the account. These earnings can come from realized capital gains, dividends or interest.

How liquid is a taxable brokerage account? ›

You want more liquidity.

There are exceptions to this rule, but it still only provides limited access. You can access money inside a taxable brokerage account at any time. This means if your car breaks down or your roof needs a repair, you can pull from your brokerage account at any time without penalty.

What investments should be reported on taxes? ›

The things that qualify for investment property in the IRS include stocks, bonds, mutual funds, even some real estate. If the worth of that investment does go up over time, you may decide to sell it. The amount of money you make on that investment beyond your basis is your profit.

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