Saturated bricks below the DPC (2024)

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elder

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  • Mar 7, 2017
  • #1

Hi All,

I'm currently facing an issue with my house builder at the moment regarding the brick type that has been used below the DPC.

The majority of the bricks below the DPC are appearing saturated/wet which is causing them to look darker and develop algae on them.

On our development the builder has opted for using the facing bricks above and below the DPC on all the houses.

Looking at number of other housing developments in the area other builders have used an engineering brick below the DPC , which has much lower water absorption %.

The facing brick that has been used on our house has a 16% water absorption rating, hence why they are remaining saturated continually.

I've enquired with the brick manufacturer and the brick type has the correct durability rating of F2/S2, however they did advise that the high water absorption would effect the appearance used in the circ*mstances described.

Has anyone else experienced this issue ?

Any ideas how to tackle this ?

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FTHB_Diary

New Member
  • Mar 7, 2017
  • #2

The good news is that the DPC is doing what it's supposed to do. I guess the first step really is to establish why the majority of bricks are damp. Your statement implies there are areas which aren't damp... are the damp bricks near any drain pipes / water run off areas? Is your guttering around the roof working correctly during heavy rain? Could there be damage to underground pipes, both supply and / or drainage? Maybe it's a heavy clay soil that's draining slowly - you could try digging a trench around the walls where possible and mixing in gravel with the soil. Ideally, you should arrange for a building surveyor to visit - at least you'll then have a professional opinion to discuss with the builders.

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elder

New Member
  • Mar 7, 2017
  • #3

All of the bottom rows of bricks along the rear, sides and front of the property are affected.

The ground at the rear of the property is very wet and we are getting a landscape survey done.

I just can't understand why they did not use Engineering Bricks as that would have prevented this issue, plus it seems many other builders use them in these circ*mstances

New Build Inspector

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  • Mar 7, 2017
  • #4

this does happen a lot .....years ago only engineering bricks would have been used underground , but now a whole range of F and FL rated bricks and IN COMBINATION with special below ground mortar mix should be used below DPC

we can get samples of mortar tested and checked if you wish ...PM for details if you want more info

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elder

New Member
  • Mar 7, 2017
  • #5

Hi,

Thanks for your offer of help.

I've just attempted to PM you and it's stated your not accepting PM's ?

New Build Inspector

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  • Mar 10, 2017
  • #6

i have reset ..it should be an option available to you now ...sorry

  • Mar 11, 2017
  • #7

This is our dpc level /air brick level completely buried. The NHBC have a techincal extra in relation to this in 2011 but it seems the building regulations are still being ignored. The external path is slightly above the internal floor level, so we have none of the 150mm requirement around one side of the house. This is not the most serious defect with out new home either! Why are the NHBC building control inspectors missing this when the CML the houses -so that then when the homeowner realises they have a problem, a mighty battle has to be fought - and how do they adjust the ground level afterwards to correct this.

New Build Inspector

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  • Mar 12, 2017
  • #8

OK ...in terms of NHBC and other WARRANTY COMPANIES ...the situation shown in your photo is classified as acceptable , i know because i have had arguments on site about this very situation

the NHBC terms that the loose stone allows percolation and helps to prevent splash back

the bricks if they are as the factory says suitable for underground but will stain ...are just that , and you should expect algae growth especially on wet elevations or elevations that dont get a lot of sun , such as between homes with the min 1m separation

the main thing is that the DPC is doing its job .....which it appears to be

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Trapped in hell

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  • Mar 12, 2017
  • #9

''Ventilation
It is important that air bricks do not become obstructed.
By having the finished external ground level 150mm below dpc, air bricks are usually at least 75mm above the ground.
If the ground level is less than 150mm below dpc, air bricks can easily become blocked with debris and may
also allow water from adjacent ground to enter the building. This should not occur.''

The was eventually upheld after a fight and sending the NHBC their own technical standards and the building regs. The external ground is completely level with the internal floor, zero mm below , you can only just see the top of the AIR bricks they are fully obscured.

New Build Inspector

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  • Mar 12, 2017
  • #10

yes air bricks should not be obstructed , but you dont need to be too precious about it , for example if the grass grows a bit long

but your photo does

not

show an obstructed one , or one less than 150 below dpc , assuming dpc at level of the top of the vent

there should be a number of vents with spacing's as per manufacturers spec , but normally no less than 2m apart

the one shown in photo would meet requirements

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Trapped in hell

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  • Mar 12, 2017
  • #11

Not sure how see the pictures, the airbricks are fully below the external path, you can only just see the top of them, the external path is level with internal floor DPC of the house,It should be 150mm below to prevent water entering the house, the NHBC upheld and agreed the ground has to be lowered by 150mm as per the Building regs and NHBC techincal standards. 'Inadequate detailing, with raised ground levels around the perimeter of the dwelling' - the air bricks are obscured by the paving slab and are fully below ground. We have none of the 150mm requirement.

New Build Inspector

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  • Mar 12, 2017
  • #12

sorry looking at wrong pictures , there was a single picture on earlier i was commenting on that

yours i take it then are the 3 pictures

in which case then , the picture clearly shows that the air brick is covered , and the path allows the rainwater to splash back over the DPC level causing lagea growth to brick work at higher levels

this is not an acceptable finish , it does not comply with building regulations or NHBC STANDARDS( unless its leading to the disabled access door ) the air brick should have a cut out around it , and the paving should be cut back away from wall and a perimeter of stone installed to allow water to percolate

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Trapped in hell

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  • Mar 12, 2017
  • #13

Thank you, I wondered what you were seeing, I understand now! You would not believe trouble we had having this upheld! This is not our only problem with this ,
we have far worse but that has to be for another day.

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