🏠Why we got a conventional mortgage🏠 (without 20% down) instead of FHA or USDA - Six Figures Under (2024)

Since I announced that we’re six figures under again (because we bought a house) I’ve received lots of questions about our mortgage. When you’ve shared all of your financial details with the world for years, I suppose that is to be expected! I’m happy to oblige.

When we finished paying off our enormous law school debt, we were itching to start house hunting even though we were working toward some other pre-house goals. We met with a loan originator soon after paying off our debt to get an idea of what our options would be and how much we needed to save. We discussedseveral types of financing that might work for us.

In addition to doing our due diligence on the loan side, we took a serious look at our finances to decide on a price range and monthly payment that we were comfortable with. I’ll go more into detail on how we decided on our house budget in a future post.

Side note: I would never finance any other purchase based on the monthly payment (can’t you just hear the salesman say, “Well that’s just $$$ a month—surely you can do that!”). I think a house is a little different. It’s crucial that you look at both the big picture and the monthly impact.

We had our loan originator run various scenarios for us so we could compare apples to apples as much as possible regarding our financing options. Seeing what the monthly payment, down payment, closing costs and interest rate (both rate and APR) would be for each of the options was very helpful in finding the best loan for us.

USDA loan

Starting out, one of the most attractive options was the USDA loan, also called the rural development loan.

Some of the big draws of the USDA loan are that no down payment is required and the mortgage insurance premium is low.

Right around the time we started looking at houses, the UDSA loan got even more attractive. When you get a USDA loan, they tack a fee on right in the beginning. Up until October 2016, that amount was 2.75%. So a $100,000 loan was actually a $102,750 loan. In October, the upfront fee went down to 1%, making it an even better deal!

The hard part with USDA is finding a property that qualifies. All of the areas that we were interested in met the rural location factor (it’s broader than you might expect), so we were hopeful that we could take advantage of this great option.

In addition to the location restrictions, there are restrictions on price (varies by area), size (varies by area), and other details. For example, it can’t be set up for a potential income-producing enterprise (i.e. hobby farm, rental unit, etc), it cannot have a swimming pool, and (oddly) it cannot be on a gravel or dirt road.

While we really hoped to get a USDA loan, it mostly depended on whether the property we found would fit. As it turned out, the property we found, fell in love with, and knew was right for us would not have qualified for a USDA loan.

FHA loan

The FHA loan seems to be a common default for people who don’t have 20% to put down. Instead of 20%, the FHA loan only requires a 3% down payment. My guess is that many people go straight for this option without checking anything else. We almost did!

When comparing the FHA loan with the other options, there were some glaring downsides. The interest rates were high and private mortgage insurance was also high.

What the FHA has going for it is that you don’t need very high credit scores to qualify. Of course, that’s also the reason that the interest rates and mortgage insurance are higher, because there’s more risk involved for the lender.

The more we thought about who the FHA loan is aiming to serve (small down payment, medium credit scores), the more I realized, that we don’t completely fall into that category. While we didn’t yet have a lot of cash for a down payment, we do have excellent credit scores.

That’s when I asked to see what a conventional loan with 5% down would look like.

Conventional, 5% down

With our credit scores we were able to get a better interest rate with a conventional loan that what the FHA loan offered us. What got me even more excited was that the mortgage insurance payment was less than half of what it would have been with an FHA loan. Our monthly mortgage insurance payment with a conventional loan was less than what it would have been with an FHA loan.

Of course we did have to have to put more money down (5% instead of the 3% required with FHA), but we were able to make it work.

There are other perks to having a conventional loan. With an FHA loan, there are pretty strict guidelines for the properties that will qualify (USDA is even more strict than FHA). If your house needs some repair, it probably won’t qualify. They don’t want you to default on your mortgage because you are up to your eyeballs in expensive repairs. That makes it a little harder to find something below market value (i.e. sells for less because it needs some love) that you can put some work into to raise the property value. Conventional loans aren’t as strict about this.

Another perk is that you can get the mortgage insurance removed on a conventional loan. This is not possible with USDA or FHA loans anymore. Getting out of mortgage insurance with USDA or FHA loans requires a refinance, which means you’re at the mercy of the interest rates when you’re ready to refinance. If the rates are higher when it’s time to refinance, you’re out of luck.

Ultimately, a conventional loan with a 5% down payment was a much better option than an FHA loan for us.

What should you do?

While we are happy with how everything worked out for us, your details are quickly likely different from ours. What worked for us might not work for you and vice versa.

If you’re trying to decide between a USDA loan, FHA loan, and conventional loan (or any other type of loan, for that matter), I encourage you to compare the loans using your specific details (not just some chart you find online). Have your loan officer run the comparisons using your real credit score, the current interest rates, and the same house price, so you can better compare apples to apples.

In your case there may be other loan options you want to explore as well. Seeing all the numbers laid out side by side will help you see and weigh all the factors, both long term (total cost of the loan) and short term (down payment, closing cost, monthly payment).

Why didn’t we wait until we had saved 20% to buy

Lots of people were surprised to hear that we bought a house before we had a 20% down payment. After seeing the somewhat extreme measures we took to pay off our hefty debt fast, it may seem surprising that we are willing to pay private mortgage insurance at all.

The answer is more than just being eager to get a house (though I’ll admit that is part of it). I’ll address our decision to buy before we had 20% down in detail soon.

How about you?

  • Do you have a USDA, FHA, or conventional loan?
  • Why did you choose it over the other options?
🏠Why we got a conventional mortgage🏠 (without 20% down) instead of FHA or USDA - Six Figures Under (2024)

FAQs

Can you get a conventional loan without putting down 20%? ›

Down Payment Requirements for a Conventional Loan

While a 20% down payment is often recommended, it's not always required. A lender will look at the big picture when evaluating your mortgage application. Depending on your specific situation, you can put down as little as 3% when taking out a conventional mortgage.

Why do people choose conventional over FHA? ›

If you're a first-time buyer or someone with a weaker credit score, then an FHA mortgage loan can be easier to qualify for. However, if you can put 20% or more toward a down payment and want to look a bit stronger to prospective sellers, then a conventional loan may be your best bet,” says Channel.

Why is a conventional loan better than a USDA? ›

USDA loans are usually better for homebuyers who can't make a down payment, have limited income, or are buying in qualifying rural or suburban areas. Conventional loans can be great options for borrowers with strong credit, solid income, and who want flexibility in where they can buy.

Why would a house be conventional only? ›

Sellers often prefer conventional buyers because of their own financial views. Because a conventional loan typically requires higher credit and more money down, sellers often deem these reasons as a lower risk to default and traits of a trustworthy buyer.

Is there a way to avoid PMI without 20 down? ›

To sum up, when it comes to PMI, if you have less than 20% of the sales price or value of a home to use as a down payment, you have two basic options: Use a "stand-alone" first mortgage and pay PMI until the LTV of the mortgage reaches 78%, at which point the PMI can be eliminated. 2. Use a second mortgage.

What credit score do you need to qualify for a conventional loan? ›

While conventional loans allow you to make a slightly smaller down payment of 3%, you must have a credit score of at least 620 to qualify. When you're deciding between a conventional loan versus an FHA loan, it's important to consider the cost of mortgage insurance.

Why do sellers not like FHA loans? ›

One reason a seller might refuse your FHA-backed offer is that they believe the home sale may be more likely to fall through due to the FHA loan program's more lenient underwriting requirements.

Which is cheaper FHA or conventional? ›

A conventional loan is often better if you have good or excellent credit because your mortgage rate and PMI costs will go down. But an FHA loan can be perfect if your credit score is in the high-500s or low-600s. For lower-credit borrowers, FHA is often the cheaper option.

Why do people want conventional loans? ›

If you want the flexibility and freedom to pay taxes and insurance separately, a conventional mortgage is your only option. Conventional mortgages are usually fixed-rate products, meaning that once an interest rate is locked in, the borrower will keep that same payment for the life of the loan.

Can you buy down interest rate on USDA loan? ›

This answer is True. Discount Points may be used to permanently buydown the interest rate. USDA has published internal thresholds allowable for lender points, fees, and charges.

What is the downside of a conventional loan? ›

Higher Closing Costs

As noted above, conventional loans tend to have lower closing costs (and be cheaper in general) than government-backed options. However, the downside of conventional loans is that they don't offer as much flexibility to help you avoid paying those costs upfront.

What are the cons of a USDA loan? ›

USDA Loan Disadvantages: What are the downsides of a USDA loan?
  • Income Limits. To qualify for a USDA loan, your household income must fall within 115% of the local median household income. ...
  • Property Restrictions. ...
  • Occupancy Requirements. ...
  • USDA Program Fees. ...
  • Longer Underwriting Timeline.
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Do you have to put 20% down on a conventional loan? ›

Down payment: While 20 percent down is the standard, many fixed-rate conventional loans for a primary residence allow for a down payment as small as 3 percent or 5 percent. Private mortgage insurance (PMI): If you put down less than 20 percent, you'll have to pay PMI, an additional fee added to your payments.

Why do sellers choose conventional over FHA? ›

Sellers often prefer conventional mortgages because they usually offer lower interest rates and the qualification requirements can be more lenient than those of an FHA loan. Additionally, with conventional loans, sellers may not have to pay private mortgage insurance or other upfront costs associated with an FHA loan.

Why do I qualify for FHA but not conventional? ›

To qualify for a conventional loan, you'll need a credit score of at least 680. Borrowers with credit scores as low as 580 may be approved for an FHA loan. If your credit score is lower, you may still qualify, but you will need a minimum of 10% of the home's value for a down payment.

What happens if you don't have a 20% down payment? ›

In other words, if you put down less than 20 percent, it will add a bit more to your monthly payments in the form of PMI. The exact amount depends on how much you did put down and what your interest rate is. Fortunately, PMI will not usually extend for the entire life of a conventional loan.

Does a conventional loan not require a down payment? ›

While most conventional and FHA loans require a minimum 3% to 3.5% down payment, there are unique options available for specific groups, such as veterans and rural home buyers with moderate to low incomes, that allow for zero down payments.

Can you put 10% down on a conventional loan? ›

You Can Get a Conventional Mortgage with 10% Down

That's great if you want to stick with a conventional loan. But there are some tradeoffs involved. For one, you can expect to pay PMI. In most cases, lenders require private mortgage insurance on any loan that contributes more than 80% of the home purchase price.

What is the lowest downpayment for conventional mortgage? ›

The minimum down payment requirement for a conventional loan is 3% of the loan amount. However, lenders may require borrowers with high DTI ratios or low credit scores to make a larger down payment. Even if it's not required, if you're able to make a higher down payment, you may want to consider doing so.

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