The hockey player's guide to skate sharpening (2024)

Almost four years ago I was explaining skate sharpening, hollows and rockers to a few people, and felt the need to write a blog explaining it all so I didn’t have to keep rehashing the info – it comes up on Twitter every couple months. When@NHLhistorygirltweeted this today…

"I'm a good glider." - #MNWild Ryan Suter on how he is able to handle so much ice time.

— Jen (@NHLhistorygirl) January 9, 2014

…I responded (implying he must use a shallow cut), and thought it might be good to take another look at skate sharpening and how it’s changing. So, start with my explanation of standard sharpening options, and I’ll meet you at the bottom to explain the rest.

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My summer job for three years during my college career was at a hockey shop sharpening skates. We were one of those destination skate sharpening places – the best equipment, pride in the job we did, the whole package. So I know this stuff pretty thoroughly.

Here’s whatyouneed to know:

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Basically, your skate “hollow” is how deep the grooveis between the edges of your blade.

If you hand your skates to someone for sharpening, and they don’t ask what hollow you get them done to, they’re probably doing them at “a half inch” (which refers to the wheel they use to sharpen your blades). And hey, don’t feel bad if you don’t know what you get yours sharpened to- Jarome Iginla came in one summer and said “I dunno, my trainer just does ‘em”.

The sharper youredges are (which comes from the deeper grooves), the deeper you sink into the ice. So you can get more push and accelerate faster, but also, during coasting, you slow down quicker because of the increased friction/drag of your blades in the ice.

And of course, the heavier you are, the deeper you sink as well. Thus, being heavy with sharp skates is a bad idea.

You can get your skates sharpened anywhere from 1/8th of an inchto one inch. 1/8th would be the sharpest, and one inch would be the least sharp. The majority of pros use something with a shallower hollow, but preference does widely vary.

I used a 5/8ths hollow, but as I got older and heavier, I switched to the less sharp3/4ths. Basically, I like to stay on top of the ice and maintain speed, since I wasn’t really a stop-and-start penalty kill guy, I was more of a coast-and-float breakaway hunting guy. At my weight (185 then, 200 now), I’m still able to get plenty of push from that hollow. Plus, we had trainers to sharpen our skates as often as we liked, so there was no “get them too sharp and let them dull down” logic that a lot of rec players use.

Most of you probably get your skates done too sharp.

Standard non-portable sharpener. Pro teams have smaller versions for travel.

You want less of a hollow ifyou skate on soft ice, if you’re a heavier person, or if you want to better keep your speed during coasting. I think you get less tired this way, but it may take you a second longer to get to top speed.

You want more of a hollow ifyou play on hard ice, if you’re a lighter person, or if you want to be able to accelerate quicker. I think you needto consciously keep moving more, but you’re maxing out your potential quickness.

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So next time you bring your skates in to get buzzed, I recommend 5/8ths. Most of the guys I played with used that hollow, since it’s a nice compromise – a 1/2 inch is pretty damn sharp. And if the place you take them too doesn’t know what you’re talking about, you need to take them somewhere else (preferably somewhere that they use a level to make sure your edges are even. That makes a huge difference, and the lazy places don’t do it).

In general, stuff like t-blades are too gimmicky for me. I’ll stick with what everybody at the highest level uses (more on this below), until something better comes along. Unless it’stoo weird, like Vern Fiddler and a few other guys testing the heated blade holder thingy’s. I’m out on that, thanks.

As for “rockering”, that’s totally a preference thing. People say that forwards need to be more on their toes, and d-men need to be more on their heels, but unless ittotallybothers you, you’re probably over-thinking it. I took mine out of the box, had them sharpened, and wore them. Don’t make yourself nuts.

Let me know if you tinker with it and like them less sharp. I bet you do.

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The bulk of What’s Changed since I wrote that post is the introduction of FBV – the “Flat-Bottom V” version of skate sharpening that’s more recently become part of mainstream hockey lexicon. I personally didn’t know the depth of its popularity or value, so I contacted the equipment manager of the University of Alaska Anchorage Seawolves (NCAA D1) – my boy P.D., who you shouldfollow on Twitterif you’re into guys who like both rap and hockey – to find out all the details.

The consensus: elite skaters don’t notice much of a difference (if any), soyou’reprobably not going to either. That’s not just “NCAA elite” either, that goes for the NHL, where only a smattering of players around the league (a couple per team?) use the “new” sharpening style. Zero players on UAA use it, one or two on Fairbanks, and the majority of kids coming up from junior (the easily-influenced) aren’t asking for it.

“Flat-Bottom V” isn’t illogical – instead of the rounded hollow, they’re going for a flat-bottom with more distinct edges, with the sales point being “more flat blade on ice for glide, more edge for turning.”

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And I know, the sales pitch is great. Which is why you can go back to the 80′s to find different types of “edges” that make sense and are going to revolutionize skating, until they die upon hearing things like “elite skaters don’t notice a difference (if any).” A good sales pitch can go a long way (you get to charge more!), and it’s likely the reason I have people on Twitter telling me it’s the wave of the future, while an NCAA equipment guy says the reaction among the non-paying is “meh.” Placebos are a hell of a drug. (I’ve also reached out to the Isles equipment guy who should get back to me this afternoon, so I’ll share Isles usage numbers then.)

The brands selling FBV areBlackstoneandBlademaster, and they both do it better than one another, if you ask them.

The consensus from P.D. and the trainers he’s spoken to is that it’s tough to dress the stone properly, it’s tough to make level, and when it’s off, it’s a mess.

So, the majority of players still use the old-school cut, as things stand.Now go get a more shallow hollow, will ya?

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FAQs

How do you test if skates are sharp enough? ›

A quick test for a sharp edge is to hold the skate upside down, place one thumbnail on the edge of the blade and gently pull down and away from the blade on three or four parts of the blade. A good, sharp blade will easily scrape a layer of your thumbnail, leaving the remnants on the blade.

What skate sharpening does Connor McDavid use? ›

Connor McDavid uses custom Tydan Performance Blades. Connor McDavid runs a 10' profile. We sell Tydan Performance Blades.

What skate sharpening do most NHL players use? ›

The most common skate sharpening radius we see for ice hockey players is a 1/2″ inch or 5/8″ inch cut.

What sharpness do NHL players get their skates sharpened? ›

The higher the number, the flatter the cut. Players used to regularly ask for a 3/8ths or half-inch cut (pointy, high); now it's commonplace for them to use a much shallower hollow. Montreal's Jesperi Kotkaniemi skates on 11/16ths. NHL refs, for whom glide is paramount, typically sharpen at around an inch.

How many passes should you do when sharpening skates? ›

How many passes should I choose when sharpening? If you are freshening up your blades after every skate, 1-2 cycles will usually be enough. If you're sharpening your skates after every 5-6 hours of ice time, you'll typically want to run 4 cycles.

Can you sharpen your skates too much? ›

Sharpen them too often and your blades will wear out prematurely. Not frequently enough, and you'll find yourself losing an edge when trying to turn, or being unable to control your skates.

What skate sharpening does Patrick Kane use? ›

IW offers Sparx Sharpening Services that deliver the most accurate and consistent sharpenings available. That's why more than 25 NHL teams including the Chicago Blackhawks Patrick Kane use the Sparx machine. Sparx delivers precise results to the 1/1000th of an inch every single time.

Do NHL teams use Sparx? ›

Used by more than 25 NHL teams, the Sparx Sharpener produces professional results with ease.

Do NHL players use flat bottom V? ›

Many players, minor league and NHL alike are claiming that the flat bottom V feels like your are gliding on top of the ice, allows you to glide longer, allows you to turn easier, and skaters will not fatigue as fast because it takes less energy to skate.

Do any NHL players use T blades? ›

The blades are sold pre-sharpened. Jochen Hecht of the Buffalo Sabres, Dennis Seidenberg of the New York Islanders, Marcel Goc of the Nashville Predators, and Christian Ehrhoff of the Buffalo Sabres are NHL players who use T-Blade skates.

How often do pros sharpen their skates? ›

Generally skates should be sharpened every 20-40 skating hours. This depends on a few different factors such as how many times a week a skater is on the ice, which elements the skater is working on, and the build of the skater.

What is the sharpest skate sharpening? ›

You can get your skates sharpened anywhere from 1/8th of an inch to one inch. 1/8th would be the sharpest, and one inch would be the least sharp.

Is 5 8 a good skate sharpening? ›

5/8 (Shallow) grind is what most figure skaters skate on. This gives you a good flowing edge and has little friction on the ice. 1/2 (Standard) grind will be a lot more forgiving when landing a jump giving a sharper edge to land on.

What skate cut does Crosby use? ›

Some examples of ROH used by current and former NHL players are:
Wayne Gretzky – 1/2″Sidney Crosby – 9/16″
Joe Sakic – 5/8″Evgeni Malkin – 11/16″
Chris Pronger – 7/8″Jordan Staal – 5/8″
Mark Messier – 1″Sergei Gonchar – 1-1/4″
Paul Coffey – 1″ to 2″Alex Ovechkin – 1/2″

What blades do most NHL players use? ›

The larger the radius, the better the straight line, top-end speed and stability. The shorter the radius, the better the maneuverability. The blade can also be contoured with a forward lean or a backward lean — the former enhancing speed, the latter stability. More than two-thirds of NHL players wear Bauer skates.

How long should you skate before sharpening? ›

Skates should typically be sharpened after 8-10 hours of use on an indoor rink. This timeframe shrinks when skating outdoors. If you find yourself struggling to skate smoothly or falling down doing a typical skill you'd be comfortable with it is a sign that you may need to get your blades checked.

What skate radius do NHL players use? ›

Most skates are sharpened by cutting an arc in between the two edges, known as the radius of hollow (ROH). This is measured in inches. Hockey player and goalie skates are often sharpened with a ROH from 3/8” up to 1-1/2”.

Can skates be sharpened wrong? ›

In the end, there is no “right” or “wrong” radius, it all comes down to what is most comfortable for you and your skating style.To begin, let's take a look at what different radii look like on the bottom of your skate blade.

Do NHL players sharpen skates? ›

They sharpen every skate in the afternoon before every game, a process that takes them about an hour, each manager with their own sharpening machine.

How often do NHL players sharpen their skates? ›

Some players will sharpen very frequently, such as every 2-3 hours of ice time, while others go for an entire season without sharpening. If you're unsure of where to start, try getting them sharpened after 10 hours of ice time, and then adjust as you feel is necessary.

How long do ice skate blades last? ›

Done frequently enough, a blade should last 5 to 8 years for the average recreational skater. Generally, the frequency should be every 20-30 hours of skating. FACTORS: Hardness of the steel used in the blade, and how much and how aggressively you skate.

Did Gretzky use a curved stick? ›

Other superstar forwards like Patrick Kane, Pavel Datsyuk and Wayne Gretzky have also used mild curves throughout their careers... none of which had any trouble scoring.

Can Sparx sharpen flare blades? ›

YES. Flare Blades can be sharpened on the Sparx® machine.

Does hockey Monkey sharpen skates? ›

Over time, the blades on your hockey skates will get dull and worn down. This can happen in the span of one game or a few months. When your blades get dull, that is your indication to head over to your local MonkeySports store to get them sharpened.

Does McDavid use CCM? ›

McDavid is well-known for using the original SuperTacks graphic, and will likely end up using it again this season. As one of the faces of CCM Hockey he is often seen using new releases in practices and ads - CCM also features McDavid's name on their P28 curve despite it being quite different from his pro pattern.

Do NHL players wear socks in their skates? ›

Some hockey players simply wear whatever socks they wear for everything else; others buy special socks that are super thin or extra thick; still others wear no socks at all.

Does the NHL allow heated blades? ›

Kris King, the NHL's senior manager of hockey operations, said the league approved the heated blades after determining that the blades were safe. The league did not test them for performance.

Do hockey players shower between periods? ›

Some players will take a shower during the intermission to feel revitalized for the upcoming period. Other players choose to meditate, closing their eyes, staying silent and visualizing their success for the remainder of the game.

Why do NHL players not shave? ›

The Stanley Cup playoff beard has been an NHL tradition since the early 1980s, when the shaggy New York Islanders won four straight championships. It represents the players' singular focus, as if even personal hygiene is sacrificed in pursuit of hockey's holy grail.

Why can't NHL players tuck in their jerseys? ›

Some reporters suggested that enforcing uniform rules was the National Hockey League's attempt to reduce freak accidents where a player's body was cut by skate blade while others said the league was laying down rules for eventually selling advertising space that would display prominently on the entire jersey.

Why do hockey players put tape on the blade of their stick? ›

Adding tape improves the contact between the blade and the puck. The taped surface of the blade makes it easier to control the puck and accurately shoot a pass across the expanse of the rink to a speeding teammate.

Do any Nhlers use the Bauer Sling? ›

Bauer custom made the new sticks for only seven players in the NHL, including DeBrusk, the Hurricanes' Andrei Svechnikov, the Senators' Brady Tkachuk, the Avalanche's Cale Makar, the Canucks' Quinn Hughes, the Devils' Jack Hughes and the Blues' Brayden Schenn.

What hockey stick has a hole in the blade? ›

Featuring one of the most revolutionary innovations in the history of hockey sticks, the Bauer Nexus ADV features the new Slingtech Technology, a hole found in the stick's blade. The basic principal of Slingtech Technology and the hole in the blade is to create a slingshot effect when releasing the puck.

Do NHL players sharpen skates between periods? ›

Each player also has his own preference as to how often his skates are sharpened. Some players may go a couple of games between sharpenings, while others may even request that their skates are sharpened between periods. Occasionally, a player will even change the depth of his hollow depending on ice conditions.

How much does a skate sharpen cost? ›

If you have more than 1 pair to be sharpened, allow at least 10 minutes for each pair.
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Current in Store Sharpening Prices (per pair):
All Other Freestyle Blades:$24.00
Figure Skate Blades (learn to skate/all-purpose blades):$12.00
Hockey Skate Blades:$10.00
Goalie Skate Blades:$12.00
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What is the hardest ice skate trick? ›

What is a triple axel in figure skating? It's one of the toughest jumps in the sport. Only a handful of women at the Winter Olympics in Beijing can do this type of jump.

What edge should I sharpen my skates? ›

Forwards generally prefer smaller radius than defense men of the same weight. Goalies generally prefer very large radius so that they can "kick out" without catching an edge. Figure: Most beginner and instructional skaters can skate on a 1/2" radius. A 5/8" radius will take care of most recreational skaters.

How sharp should my hockey skates be? ›

Your hockey skates should be sharp enough to ensure the blades have bite and allow you to turn and stop with confidence. Sharp edges mean that the inside and outside edges of your skate blade are razor-thin, clean and without burrs or nicks.

What is a 3/8 skate sharpening? ›

Different Types of Skate Sharpening Hollows

For example, a lighter player can benefit from a deeper hollow (7/16" or 3/8") by providing them with the ability to cut deeper into the ice. This type of sharpening provides more bite for the user, allowing for more responsive turns/stops and quicker overall acceleration.

Can hockey skates be too sharp? ›

While your skates can never be too sharp, they can certainly be too dull and that can take a whole lot of fun out of the game. For those skaters who do feel their skates are too sharp at times, we recommend reviewing our post on selecting an ROH. You should experiment with a slightly shallower radius.

Is Crosby a grinder? ›

“How I like to describe Sid is he's a skilled grinder — the best skilled grinder ever, basically,” former NHLer and current ESPN analyst Dom Moore said, noting that's the utmost compliment at this time of year.

How often do NHL players tape their sticks? ›

How Often? For optimal performance in terms of feel, your stick should get new tape for every game. Many pros re-tape for every practice. But, for most amateurs, protection is the primary goal and, therefore, tape needs to be replaced only when it is showing wear (fraying and the like) along the bottom edge.

What sharpening does McDavid use? ›

Connor McDavid uses custom Tydan Performance Blades. Connor McDavid runs a 10' profile. We sell Tydan Performance Blades.

Do longer skate blades make you faster? ›

The longer blades help speed skaters go faster because they provide more pressure into the ice. These blades also help speed skaters have more grip on the ice while they skate. It's very similar to track and field athletes wearing spikes on their shoes to have more grip while they run.

Are taller skate blades better? ›

So why use taller blades? They provide a more aggressive “attack” or “push” angle to the ice before the cowling makes contact and there is risk of slipping out. Taller steel allows goalies to get their knees lower to the ice before the cowling makes contact.

How do you check a skate edge? ›

Bring the skate blade to eye-level and look down the blade towards the coin. If there is a significant height difference between the inside and outside edge, it will be visible; you'll see one side of the coin will be higher than the other.

How do you know if ice is thick enough to skate on? ›

Make a hole in the ice using an ice chisel, auger, or cordless drill. Insert a tape measure into the hole, hook the end onto the edge of the ice, and take the measurement. If your reading is at least four inches, proceed with caution.

Should your toes touch the end of your skate? ›

Almost all skaters worry about their toes touching the end when they first put on skates. This is perfectly normal. The first three things you do when you go skating all help to make a skate feel better: Tap your heel into the back of the skate - be firm!

How do you get deeper edges in ice skating? ›

Try not to rise up as you finish each stroke; keep your hips low and think of it more as a side-to-side push with each edge, pushing off the one foot and extending it out as you push off onto the other foot and shift your weight to the other hip. Press the blade into the ice constantly.

Should my toes touch the front of my skates? ›

Your toes should barely touch the front toe of the hockey skate. The skate is too small if your toes are bunched up or pressed hard against the front of the skate. Try a smaller size if your toe doesn't touch the front of the boot.

Do skates expire? ›

Anywhere from 1 – 20 years. It totally depends on quality of components, upkeep and maintenance, the type of skating you do, and how often you skate. The wheels may be the first to go, but they can be changed. The key is to clean and maintain your bearings, wheels and other parts to help them last.

Can I use wd40 on my skates? ›

However, if they are really dirty, you can also use the WD-40® Multi-Use Product on them. Make sure the seal is thoroughly dried before inserting back into the bearing.

How many times can you skate before sharpening? ›

Generally skates should be sharpened every 20-40 skating hours. This depends on a few different factors such as how many times a week a skater is on the ice, which elements the skater is working on, and the build of the skater.

Do you sharpen skates heel to toe? ›

Should I mount the skate heel-to-toe, or toe-to-heel when sharpening? Though it isn't bad form to choose one way or the other, Blademaster always recommends that you sharpen from heel-to-toe.

How long can you go without sharpening skates? ›

Skates should typically be sharpened after 8-10 hours of use on an indoor rink. This timeframe shrinks when skating outdoors. If you find yourself struggling to skate smoothly or falling down doing a typical skill you'd be comfortable with it is a sign that you may need to get your blades checked.

Is 2 inches of ice enough to skate on? ›

Minimum ice thickness should be:

15 cm for walking or skating alone.

Is 2 inches of ice enough? ›

Less than 4 inches: Stay off the ice. 4 inches: Walking, ice fishing, ice skating, or other activities on foot are permitted. 5 to 7 inches: Snowmobiling or riding ATVs are safe. 8 to 12 inches: Driving a car or small pickup is allowed.

Should ice skates feel tight? ›

How tight should hockey skates fit? Hockey skates should be snug, but not uncomfortably tight. When unlaced, your toes should just barely touch the toe cap. When standing in your skates with them fully laced, you want your heel snug in the heel pocket, so your toes have a bit of space at the end.

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