Choosing an Appropriate Edge Radius When Sharpening Blades (2024)

It's been called a groove, a hollow grind, or a ground radius. You could refer to it as: "I want a 5/8" radius" or "I want a 1/2" radius". By grinding a radius into your skate blade you are making your edges sharp and depending upon the radius you choose, you are also making your edges more (or less) pronounced.

From grade school math, you may recall that a 1" diameter circle will have a 1/2" radius.

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A 4" circle will have a 2" radius, a 3/4" diameter circle will have a 3/8" radius, etc, etc.

The diamond dresser attachment on most skate sharpening machines will dress (shape) the grinding face of the grinding wheel to the curvature shape of any radii between 1/4" and 1-1/4".This is the radius that will be transferred to the skate blade by grinding.

WHAT RADIUS IS BEST: THE MEANING OF "SHARP"

Choosing a radius can be as simple or as complex as you want to make it. The following discussion will allow you to understand skate sharpening. You should also be able to then form opinions on your own.

To begin , let's look at what different radii look like on the bottom of your blade. Note: These drawings are exaggerated for effect.

A SMALL RADIUS CREATES

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"Deep Hollow"

  • More Pronounced Tips
  • Sharper Feel
  • More edge
  • More surface area contact with ice
  • More grip (less maneuverable)
  • More drag (slower). You'll lose glide to excess friction and be working harder.
  • May have trouble stopping without chatter or going over the top of your skates.
  • Will be able to hold a very tight turn

A LARGE RADIUS CREATES

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"Shallow Hollow"

  • Less Pronounced Tips
  • Not so Sharp Feel
  • Less edge
  • Less surface area contact with ice
  • Less grip (more maneuverable)
  • Less drag (faster)

After a skate has been ground it will have sharp edges regardless of how big or small the radius is. Keep in mind that the long speed skating blades used in the Olympics are honed flat with no radius. They are looking for maximum glide. While they are careful in the turns, don't ever doubt that these blade edges are not sharp! The real questions are: "Is there enough edge?" "Is there too much edge ?"

If immediately upon use a skater claims the skate is not sharp enough, they are usually saying, "this skate does not have enough edge on it to suit my skating".

How much edge a skater can tolerate is affected by four main variables. These are the skater’s weight, the skater’s discipline, the ice temperature, and the skater’s skill level.

Warning: in no case should a radius smaller than 1/4" be attempted. Besides being too sharp for anyone, this will weaken the sharpeners grinding wheel and will create a safety hazard.


WEIGHT

An extremely light skater can tolerate very small radii (producing a deep hollow and lots of edge). They do not have much weight to bear on the ice.

Beginner level skaters can learn most skills (particularly the hockey stop) easier by grinding their skates with a very large radius. As they progress the radii is decreased back to a normal level.

A heavy skater trying to skate on a small radius (too much edge) will bite into the ice so hard that they will have trouble stopping without chatter or going over the top of their skates. They will also loose glide to excess friction and be working harder. On the other hand, they will be able to hold a very tight turn!

Professionals and advanced level can skate on smaller radii , often finding it better for fast edging and footwork and better grip when landing higher rotation jumps; particularly effective for ice dancers. Skating on too small of a radius, sometimes feels like skating on soft ice.

While 3/8" radius edges are more pronounced than 5/8" they are also more fragile and less durable.

A "general purpose" chart for radius

COMPETITIVE/ICE DANCE

INSTRUCTIONAL/BASIC HOCKEY

BEGINNER

RECREATIONAL

HOCKEY GOALIE

3/8"-7/16”

1/2"

5/8"

3/4"

1 TO 1 1/4"

  • A US Dime is ~11/16" in diameter or has an ~11/32" radius. This is ~1/32" less than a 3/8" radius.
  • A US Penny is ~3/4" in diameter or has a ~3/8" radius
  • A US Nickel is ~13/16" in diameter or has a ~13/32" radius. This is ~1/32" greater than a 3/8" radius.
  • A US Quarter is ~15/16" in diameter or has a ~15/32" radius. This is ~1/32" less than a 1/2" radius.

SKATERS

Hockey: 1/2" seems to be the most common radius for kids through high school. Forwards generally prefer smaller radius than defense men of the same weight. Goalies generally prefer very large radius so that they can "kick out" without catching an edge.

Figure: Most beginner and instructional skaters can skate on a 1/2" radius. A 5/8" radius will take care of most recreational skaters.

When figure skaters get to the level where they are in a serious program, they will be under the guidance of a coach or instructor. The skater should consult these people for advice on the best radius for the program they are performing. Most common is 7/16” to 3/8” for ice dancers and in between for synchro

ICE TEMPERATURE

Most rink managers shoot for an ice temperature of approximately 25 degrees Fahrenheit. A temperature of 17 to 23 degrees is considered "hard hockey ice", 25 to 26 degrees is considered good figure skate ice. Slightly smaller radius may be used on colder/ harder ice and vice versa.

What causes Even and Uneven Edges

Skates needing to be sharpened do not just have dull edges; they will also have unevenly worn edges depending on weight distribution.

Skating: When skating aggressively, or with uneven weight distribution over the blade, typically caused by pronation, the inside edge is worn off more than the outside. Furthermore, the inside edge is worn mostly under the ball of the foot and not much at all near the tail of the skate blade. If you don’t believe this, go inline skating for a week and don’t rotate your wheels!

Improper sharpening: Ifthe blade is not ground down along on the absolute middle of the skate blade it will always have uneven edges. There are two ways this can happen.

#1 The outside edge, which is higher, is therefore “sticking out” further than the inside edge and must contact the grinding wheel first. The high material will then be taken off and the grind will drop into the center producing even edges It's the center of the Blade that must be the guide, not the center of the worn radius. If this rule isn't followed, you get uneven edges. Qualified skate technicians will always use a small T-square or micrometer to measure the blade edges across the entire edge surface to make sure that they are exactly even. Years ago, sharpeners would be seen balancing a penny across the edges, which was close, but not exactly accurate.

#2 Skate blades are not all the same thickness. So the skate holder adjustments must be verified with every sharpening and not left at some arbitrary "standard" setting. If this rule isn't followed, you get uneven edges.

For more information about figure skating equipment, read our other guides or get in touch with us. We're always happy to help!

The article delves into the intricacies of skate blade radius and its impact on performance, discussing various radius sizes, their effects on edge sharpness, maneuverability, grip, and speed. Let's break down the concepts covered:

1. Radius Basics:

  • Radius Definition: The radius refers to the curvature ground into a skate blade to sharpen the edges.
  • Relation to Circle Diameter: The radius is half of the circle's diameter. For instance, a 1" diameter circle has a 1/2" radius.

2. Impact of Radius Sizes:

  • Small Radius (Deep Hollow): Creates sharper edges, more grip, increased surface area contact with the ice, but also more drag and less maneuverability.
  • Large Radius (Shallow Hollow): Results in less sharpness, decreased grip, less surface contact with the ice, reduced drag, and increased maneuverability.

3. Factors Influencing Radius Selection:

  • Weight: Light skaters can handle smaller radii for deeper hollows, while heavy skaters might struggle with too much edge and excessive friction.
  • Skill Level and Discipline: Beginners might benefit from larger radii for easier learning, while advanced skaters often prefer smaller radii for precise movements.
  • Ice Temperature: Colder, harder ice might benefit from slightly smaller radii for improved grip.

4. Recommended Radii:

  • General Radius Recommendations: Vary based on skating discipline and skill level, ranging from 3/8" to 1-1/4" for different skating purposes (e.g., competitive, recreational, hockey, figure skating).

5. Skater Preferences:

  • Hockey Skaters: Forwards may prefer smaller radii compared to defensem*n of the same weight. Goalies usually opt for larger radii.
  • Figure Skaters: Varies based on program level, often consulting coaches or instructors for advice on suitable radii.

6. Blade Maintenance and Uneven Edges:

  • Causes of Uneven Edges: Weight distribution, aggressive skating, and improper sharpening can lead to unevenly worn edges.
  • Sharpening Techniques: Ensuring even sharpening across the blade is crucial, using tools like micrometers to measure and maintain uniformity.

7. Considerations for Edge Maintenance:

  • Skating Technique Impact: Uneven weight distribution during skating affects edge wear, necessitating proper maintenance.
  • Proper Sharpening Procedures: The importance of grinding the blade's center and verifying skate holder adjustments to prevent uneven edges.

8. Final Recommendations:

  • Advice for Skaters: Recommendations for different skater types, disciplines, and ice conditions, highlighting the importance of consulting experts for optimal radius selection.

This comprehensive guide covers the nuances of skate blade radius, catering to various skating disciplines, skater preferences, and maintenance techniques essential for ensuring peak performance on the ice.

Choosing an Appropriate Edge Radius When Sharpening Blades (2024)

FAQs

Choosing an Appropriate Edge Radius When Sharpening Blades? ›

Forwards generally prefer smaller radius than defense men of the same weight. Goalies generally prefer very large radius so that they can "kick out" without catching an edge. Figure: Most beginner and instructional skaters can skate on a 1/2" radius. A 5/8" radius will take care of most recreational skaters.

What is sharpening radius? ›

The “Radius” of your skate blades can be described as the hollow that is ground into the bottom of your blades during sharpening that gives you your pronounced inside and outside edges.

What blade radius do NHL players use? ›

Shallow Hollow

An interesting fact worth noting is that NHL players tend to, on average, skate on much flatter RoHs than your typical recreational player. One NHL team that we are close to claims that greater than 50% of the players are at 5/8” RoH and larger with many in the 3/4”, 7/8”, and 1” RoH range.

What does 1 2 inch skate sharpening mean? ›

Basically, your skate “hollow” is how deep the groove is between the edges of your blade. If you hand your skates to someone for sharpening, and they don't ask what hollow you get them done to, they're probably doing them at “a half inch” (which refers to the wheel they use to sharpen your blades).

How do I choose skate sharpening? ›

The deeper the cut, the more grip the blade will have. The shallower the cut, the more glide the blade will have. For the youth or junior player, we recommend starting with a 1/2" standard sharpening. For the adult player, we recommend starting with a 5/8" standard sharpening.

What is the formula for sharpening? ›

The formula for standardized sharpening with radius R is,

fN = dscan/2 is the Nyquist frequency; feql = 0.3 fN = 0.15 C/P; feql = 0.6 MTF50 for seriously blurred edges where MTF50 < 0.2 fN (0.1 C/P). The image is sharpened if ksharp > 0 and de-sharpened if ksharp < 0 (a bit different from standard blurring).

How do you find the right angle for sharpening? ›

The sharpening angle for your knife is half the angle of the cutting edge (after all, you will sharpen on 2 sides). The sharpening angle of a Japanese knife (please find a few examples below) is therefore 15° (30°/2) and of other knives 18° to 20°.

What sharpening does Ovechkin use? ›

Some examples of ROH used by current and former NHL players are:
Wayne Gretzky – 1/2″Sidney Crosby – 9/16″
Joe Sakic – 5/8″Evgeni Malkin – 11/16″
Chris Pronger – 7/8″Jordan Staal – 5/8″
Mark Messier – 1″Sergei Gonchar – 1-1/4″
Paul Coffey – 1″ to 2″Alex Ovechkin – 1/2″

What is the 35+ rule in NHL? ›

A player who signs a contract at age 35 or older can be bought out as a compliance buyout, or, as a regular buyout. As a regular buyout, the team does not receive cap relief, instead they free a roster position and decrease the salary owed to the player.

What blade does Sidney Crosby use? ›

According to geargeek.com he was last seen using the CCM Ribcor Reckoner Stick, this is the next generation of the CCM Ribcor Trigger, The The CCM Reckoner Grip Hockey Stick is optimized in both Shaft and Blade of the stick.

Can skates be too sharp? ›

While your skates can never be too sharp, they can certainly be too dull and that can take a whole lot of fun out of the game. For those skaters who do feel their skates are too sharp at times, we recommend reviewing our post on selecting an ROH. You should experiment with a slightly shallower radius.

Is it easier to ice skate with sharp blades? ›

Heavier skaters trying to skate on a smaller radius will bite into the ice and have trouble stopping without going over the top of the skates or chattering. On the other hand, they can hold tight turns. If you are a beginner, you should remember that most skills are easier to learn with a larger hollow radius.

How do you measure the radius of a skate blade? ›

A skate blade's radius is measured by the radius of the circle that the entire length of the blade would touch if it were resting on the bottom edge of the circle. (Picture the skate balanced on the bottom inside edge of a hula hoop.) Typical skate blade radii range from 7 feet to 14 feet.

How many times should you sharpen your skates? ›

Skates should typically be sharpened after 8-10 hours of use on an indoor rink. This timeframe shrinks when skating outdoors. If you find yourself struggling to skate smoothly or falling down doing a typical skill you'd be comfortable with it is a sign that you may need to get your blades checked.

What does sharpening mean in games? ›

AMD Radeon™ Image Sharpening employs a contrast adaptive sharpening algorithm that restores clarity to in-game visuals that may have been softened by other effects, bringing out details of objects without creating some of the visual artifacts seen in other sharpening effects. Watch Video.

What is the best sharpening setting in Lightroom? ›

The best way to sharpen your photographs in lightroom is to use the detail panel in the develop module. move the top slider to about 60 and then the masking slider about half way along. If you hold the option or alt button down it will show you when it is just the edges being sharpened.

What does sharpening do to an image? ›

Sharpening enhances the definition of edges in an image. Whether your images come from a digital camera or a scanner, most images can benefit from sharpening. When sharpening images, keep the following in mind: Sharpening cannot correct a severely blurred image.

What is blade radius? ›

This curve on the stone is formed from the radius of a circle which is the same curve that is used to shape the skate's blade surface when sharpened- in the shape of a hollow. A smaller radius means a smaller circle which creates a deeper hollow, making the blades feel sharper and have more edge (or more bite).

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